Airlines Without Compassion or Today’s Gold Rush? You Decide
I’ve decided to invite our readers to watch THIS news clip of a family of four who was kicked off a Southwest Airlines flight in Seattle and join in a friendly and informative discussion.
Please consider leaving your own observations of whether or not this family was:
Kicked off the flight with just cause
They were being discriminated against because they have one child having Autism and one having Cerebral Palsy
or
Could this possibly be the beginnings of a modern day gold rush?
You decide - and I’ll chime in later.
(image: Screenshot CNN )
Hat Tip: Homemom3
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40 opinions for Airlines Without Compassion or Today’s Gold Rush? You Decide
marye
Jul 7, 2008 at 10:23 am
Bwaaahahahahahahaha…I am answering you privately on this one Gaya.
marye
Jul 7, 2008 at 10:40 am
O.k..nevermind..I am talking..
First, what is the deal with the victimization of America? Why is it that the people who are doing the wrong thing have more rights than the people who are doing the right thing? I will tell you. Individual freedoms. You see, while SOME people have spent time in the military to defend the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness it was never meant to allow the rights of one to overwrite the rights of all. Your personal freedoms stop at my doorstep.
If people have kids that are ill behaved for whatever reason an entire plane load of passengers who have also paid big money for the trip should not have to suffer. I have flown on planes while pregnant, and I have flown on planes with my children.
Hey, people, my personal freedom is just as important as yours. And I am tired of backing down and dealing with your personal freedoms being jammed down my throat.
We are a country of individuals but each individual is part of the whole. We need to remember that.
Kelsey
Jul 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm
LoL, I see you’re trying to be a bit more diplomatic this time Gayle! But have you looked at the comments that are posted to the side of the video feed? So far every single one of them is saying “Kudo’s Southwest”. Isn’t it amazing how there are similarities between this case and the whole shinanagins from a few weeks back but this time, no one seems to be on the family’s side? At least, so far. It seems to me that the only real difference I see this time, is image. The last lady looked all nice and sincere and her child was a bit younger so bad airlines, bad!, while this time, there are a lot of kids that even in the video are running a bit wild and don’t look under control and everyone is cheering for the airlines. Kinda makes you wonder about the court of public opinion, doesn’t it?
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm
WTH? Frankly how dare SW do this? What is all this talk about the other passengers paid good money blag, blah, blah? So did the family who was booted off. When you buy a plane ticket you are paying for passage…that’s it. You are not guaranteed a peaceful relaxing flight or that you won’t be disturbed by any of the hundreds of other people on the plane. Anyone expecting that needs to grow the heck up.
So that family…who paid for passage should have gotten their passage regardless of their unruly kids…two of which can not be held to standards of age appropriate behavior.
What danger does a screaming kid pose? A noisy kid even? NONE. It was just bothersome to people who obviously have their heads stuck up their own behinds and have no compassion. How many people offered to help this woman? Probably none…but I sure many had some nasty words for her or about her.
AND frankly who can blame kids for being ansty on a plane? Its stuffy, hot many times, the pressure hurts your ears, and it is BORING. People need to be more compassionate and Southwest needs to stay out of the parenting business and fly people like they are supposed to…unless of course I missed the part where agree to perfect decorum before you board.
They should also pay through the nose for this error in judgement. Unacceptable to take money for plane tickets and then strand your passengers thousands of miles away from home. Very bad form. But I am not surprised…SW is the airline that ejected a passenger for wearing a miniskirt that they felt was too short. Who the heck do they think they are????
Sue Doe-Nim
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Gayla you are a cruel woman.
They were only warned twice! Everyone knows that you get 13 and a half warnings before there are any consequences.
And I find it remarkable that they didn’t make that woman buy two seats for herself.
This is why the world hates Americans. Have some farking manners.
Sue Doe-Nim
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Oh and Kelsey, for the record, I think both families were deplorable.
marye
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Whatever … Southwest has a code of conduct for it’s passengers that is easily available and it specifically says that it retains the right to refuse to transport passengers for issues of conduct or “lewd clothing”, among other things.
http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/coc.pdf
If a company has decided to have a set of guidelines it is up to you to abide by them or take a different flight on a less restrictive airline.
Gee, I think it falls under the freedom of choice clause that southwest is guaranteed by the constitution as a non-government run company.
homemom3
Jul 7, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Wow Gayla, I’d originally came here to thank you for linking. I can’t believe the stir on this one too. But it seems (arrow pointing to above poster Tiffany) that the same commenter hit both of us with basically the exact same message that she just copied and pasted.
First the mom states she admitted her kids were UNRULY. But she still thought everyone would just bend over backwards? Honestly I think she knew what would happen and is why she did it. I mean it was only what a week or two ago the last lady had this happen and everyone screamed sue. It looks like this one was just trying to milk it. I’m sorry to say it but it does.
phinfan13
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:25 pm
well it seems corporate america is once again at it.
When we will ever say enough is enough and stop taking their bs. Maybe the kids were a little unruly but hey 1 is autistic another w/ C.P. come on flight crew if you can’t do better than this maybe it’s time to find another job
Haven’t flown SW in years and now they know why
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm
homemom3…bend over backwards???
Puhlease. :) Did she ask passengers or flight attendants to hold her crying children, did she ask the pilot to speed things up? Exactly what special favors was this family asking for?
All they wanted was for people to suck it up and deal with it, especially in light of the fact that two of her kids are handicapped essentially. Sound like something any reasonably compassionate person could and should do….bit NO…we Americans want everything to our greatest satisfaction…we can’t tolerate people that are different, or that fall below our elevated standards. All those that complained really need a kick in the pants.
The flight lasted what…maybe 6-8 hours and people couldn’t get over themselves and deal with some unruly behavior or inconvenience that long? Some people need to grow up and get some perspective…oh and learn how to empathize.
homemom3
Jul 7, 2008 at 4:27 pm
actually I’d be on a plane WITH children (4 in fact) and I’d EXPECT them to be on their VERY best behavior. With children on a plane they all should be, if one acts up what happens to the rest on a plane? There would be chaos no matter how many have an issue or not. Plain and simple. Think back to school, remember that first person that throws food across the lunchroom? What happens? They all do. Now you’ve got and she admitted to her kids doing this: Children running up and down the aisle. Hmm, is that not going to make others want to do this too?
For me yes I’d be very irritated seeing these kids for 6-8 hours being unruly. It would drive me nuts, irritation would grow and yes I’d probably state something to someone in charge expecting them to get these kids to MIND their parents or buckle them up. I’m nervous as it is on a plane I don’t want to see someone treating it like a playground. What if they break something or get hurt or hurt someone? Imagine them even falling and getting hurt? Would mom expect money from airline if they got hurt? I think she would but it was the lack of control that would hurt them. This is WHY airlines have their rules. Honestly I think she intended for this to happen, but that’s just my thoughts.
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I also would be with children, 3, and actually have been on flights with them a dozen or so times. They behaved very well but it was a challenge so I can empathize. I also do not have kids that are handicapped though so I know I have NO business commenting on how they should be parented other than to say they need extra concessions…but that’s just me.
BTW the video said the kids were WALKING around on the plane…not running. AND if seatbelt signs are off I believe WALKING is permitted.
And sorry but who cares if you would be irritated for 8 hours…who are you that anyone should have to live their life to please you…or me for that matter? Your nerves and your short temper are your issue.
Gayla McCord
Jul 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Ok - as a former frequent flier - I reiterate what Marye said in that each airline has a passenger code of conduct. If you can’t abide by those rules and you aren’t sure you can, then you should make special arrangements with the airlines.
As for kids up walking around the plane - I traveled with my kids and I purposely made my flights so they would be connecting to give the kids time to get up, walk around and wear down for the next leg.
When people are up walking around continuously, it makes it impossible for the flight attendants to do their job. Allowing people to get up and move about the cabin pretty much means go to the restroom and return to your seat or get something from the overhead that you might need. It doesn’t mean get up and keep the isles blocked for the remainder of the flight.
I don’t care who you are, what you’re doing, how old or young you are - there are rules that need to be followed.
Now, those who are shaming the airlines, when you go to the theater do you think kids should be allowed to talk, scream and walk about the isles?
I have three boys and I take plenty of time to plan ahead for trips - to me there’s a lot to be said for well planned and organized travelers who keep fellow passengers in mind.
I think those who have taken time to plan ahead are recognized and in those cases many passengers will overlook when things go wrong. But when one is disorganized and obviously didn’t think things through - they frown on that.
Gayla McCord
Jul 7, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Hey and if they are lucky - maybe Southwest will give them enough to buy mom a brand new penis.
Just sayin’
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Well, a movie theatre is quite different. In that case you are paying for entertainment and enjoyment…an airline is being paid to take you from one place to another….not entertain you or create a plastic bubble for you. You are in cramped quarters with hundred of other people. I guess anyone who bumps by elbow in the isle or continually kicks my chair should be ejected then? What about the guy with a bad cough who is hacking on me and infecting the whole plane?
You need not be organized to patronize and airline. Passengers who plan poorly will be a burden and others can just deal with it. Service businesses are there to serve…even the difficult customers.
This was also the kids first trip. How does one know how the kids will react…especially handicapped ones? How prepared can you be for the unknown? Like I said…6-8 hours of irritation will not kill anyone.
Gayla McCord
Jul 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Damn strait a movie theater is different - about $400 different!
As far as bumping your seat or coughing without covering their mouth - I think it’s perfectly acceptable that a person speak up and ask them to please take care of the problem. If not, then I would ask to be moved.
I have been known to call people out for such actions in public. Doesn’t bother me one bit to let a person know their coughing without covering their mouth is disgusting.
Believe me, I can tell when a mother has planned well to keep her child entertained and when she hasn’t. I think it’s obvious in the mothers actions and reactions to the kids.
I play very close attention to body language and that can tell an entire story in itself. I react, respond or assist accordingly.
So I guess, the next time you pay for a movie and get distracted, a couple of hours of irritation and interruption won’t kill you?
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Covering your mouth will do nothing. On an airplane the are is recycled so a sick person coughing in the back will have their germs dispersed through the whole cabin within a few hours. So ANYONE with a cold should be ejected no? Or should we just suck it up?
Same with unruly kids. Comparing a movie to a plane is weak. A movie can and should be avoided if you have to bring kids that will disrupt it. A plane ride is different. For all we know they could have had a death in the family and needed to get to a funeral, or a family members that was dealthy ill. Maybe they were fleeing abuse? There are MANY reasons why a plane ride might be necessary. A plane ride is not recreation.
Maybe this mom didn’t plan well. Maybe she had NO idea of how two handicapped kids would react being confined on a plane. I am guessing that your kids never once had a tantrum either because if they did that means you were unprepared once or twice. GASP!
You might feel comfortable calling people out when they don’t meet up to YOUR expectations but I hope you won’t mind when you get the finger in response. I for one and not on this earth to please you or anyone else.
Kelsey
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Compassion is all well and good and I think that many of us do display compassion on a regular basis. When I see a mother with a screaming tot dragging him out of a store or resturant because he won’t calm down, I will stop to ask if there is anything I can do to help because I’ve been there and heck next time it may be me dragging my child out kicking and screaming. Giving her an understanding smile and helping her pick up her things to make sure that she get’s everything is compassion. Letting her know you’ve been there too so she feels like less of a failure as a parent, that’s compassion.
However, sitting idley by as she lets her kids disregard the rule of flight (which on all airlines I’ve been on lately are to stay seated with your belt on unless you need to use the restroom or get something from the overhead compartment) and lets them be unruly (which let’s be honest if she was willing to admit that they were unruly then they were most likely driving everyone else nuts) well in that case, she’s being irresponsible and does not deserve my compassion.
I am sick and tired of parents being irresponsible and then demanding that people pity them or better yet pay for them to be incompetant parents. It’s funny that the one commenter agreed that a movie was different. Honestly I would be more tolerant if this happened during a movie! At least then if it really bothered me I could leave and only be out $7.50. And in a theater, the children are not going to cause any sort of damage besides spilling a pop or two, in flight, they can cause harm and be harmed if sudden turbulance is hit.
I have two very little ones and they are by no means angels. And when they are not, I apologize profusely to the people around me and if possible make them apologize as well and I do my level best to correct the situation because if there is an inconveince it should be mine and no one else’s. We are all responsible for our own actions unless we’re parents in which case our children’s actions become our responsibility because we instill proper manners in them and if they are not displaying them then we need to correct them. That is the job of a parent. It is not the job of everyone else to put up with our failings.
Compassion be damned, during a flight keep your kids butts glued to a seat.
P.S. Sue, if you can’t tell, I completly agree, I was just commenting on how it was odd.
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 7:55 pm
No…I have flown enough times to know that seatbelt off signs mean you can move about the cabin. I let my own kids get up and move around, although not outside our row. How exactly do you go about keeping your kid’s butt glued to the seat? Especially when they see other people moving about.
Manners are societal expectations…they are optional.
Dee
Jul 7, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I agree the airline was within it’s rights and did the right thing. It’s time for others–airline employees, waitresses, bystanders–to enforce proper behavior from children if their parents can’t/won’t. If a parent is truly attempting to control their unruly child, most bystanders will at least understand and try to assist or at least accept the situation. It’s the parent who allows such behavior–or doesn’t even notice it–or thinks it’s “cute” that deserves expulsion from any public space shared with others. And especially from a place as confined as a plane!
Dee
Jul 7, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Tiffany–
The purpose of manners is primarily to show consideration for others. One would think a parent would want their children to show consideration for others.
Manners are Societal Expectations and Are Optional
Jul 7, 2008 at 8:57 pm
[…] very statement is an actual comment left in another discussion that’s going on here on Guerilla […]
Kelsey
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I’ll be honest, I don’t understand people.
If you were in a resturant and someone’s kids were being unruly and running around and the manager had come by a few times to ask you to control them and they were still acting up so the manager asked you to leave, would you sue the restuarant? Would you even say they were at fault? But everyone needs to eat right? How dare they impune upon your right to eat! Even if your children are costing them countless other patrons and disturbing everyone else, they should just deal with it, right? After all they only pay for the food, right? Of course not! A flight is the same thing. It is a service and a priviledge not a right. And the provider of that service can set down a code of conduct that they expect you to meet and if you fail well, they have the right to refuse service.
No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service, and no, we will not pay you to walk somewhere else to get service.
And as for manners, well yes, they are optional, just don’t be suprised when society ostracizes you for not using them. All our social niceities, like compassion, are optional but I think you’ll find you get the best treatment when you use them all. And I honestly think that only people who use them should be allowed to be upset at being denied them, of course, they’re generally too polite.
Gayla McCord
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm
GO Kelsey!!!
“only people who use them should be allowed to be upset at being denied them, of course, they’re generally too polite.”
Love it! Love it!
We can dream, can’t we?
Sue Doe-Nim
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Kelsey, I have a Mommy crush on you right now.
I imagine your children are welcome everywhere they go.
Kelsey
Jul 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm
LoL, I wish, unfortunately my son is currently in the terrible two’s and we’re waging an ongoing battle to determine who’s the boss. However, that being said, he is nothing if not polite, even if it’s only to smile sweetly at me and say “No Fanks (thanks) Mommy” when I tell him it’s time to go to bed.
Tiffany
Jul 7, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Oh come on…getting ejected from a restaurant is no big deal. Getting stranded thousands of miles away from home with no money and no means to get home with 4 kids in tow is a different ball of wax. It is nuts to compare the two scenarios. I love how some conveniently forget that we are talking about kids with a handicap too. Should kids with downs syndrome be ejected too? Turrets? Can we who claim to be so mannerly make some concessions for the less fortunate? Sounds like a big NO….not very mannerly IMO. Of course people who like to talk about manners are usually snarky and have none whatsoever.
p0ntus
Jul 7, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Flying somewhere is not a right. You cannot expect the airline or the other passengers to just suck it up and deal with being indirectly harassed by other people’s kids. There is not a single other business in the world that would allow such crap to carry on. The woman knew that her children were a problem, but she had no consideration for the others onboard. A normal mom would have avoided flight with such children (it’s never necessary), but she didn’t give a damn and that smacks of gold-digging.
I can sympathize with the plight of a woman whose children are difficult, but that doesn’t give her the right to foist them on other people, just as we do not have the right to control her children. Tiffany, if I were legally allowed to administer parenting to those children when they acted out of control, I wouldn’t mind the woman bringing them aboard, but the fact is that we are not a social commune.
If one of the other passengers had restrained one of the children in any way, even to simply remove one from the path of a flight attendant momentarily, that passenger would have to be worried about assault charges brought by the mother.
Flight attendants as well are not communal parents. Their job is to get people pillows and serve drinks, not take care of annoying brats on a long, cramped flight. Sorry, but what Southwest did was completely within their rights and totally commendable. The woman should have known before boarding that her children could not handle that kind of pressure and that the business and other customers she chose to afflict with her unfortunate situation did not have to put up with it.
jeansgeans
Jul 7, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I also have 4 children most now grown, we would fly quite often when they were younger.1 has Autism (high functioning) very fidgety. 2nd has ADHD/OCD/manic depressive/memory loss. 3rd kinnda normal and 4th your regular old ADHD and 6 at the time.All of them were told what was proper and not proper on the plane.Each were given their appropriate things to keep them busy on the flight.(One of which was to Germany and back).And when they got bored with what they had,they traded with each other. They are by no means angels however and Yes We had a few tiffs at times but they were handled very swiftly and quietly.In the end we have had many compliments on their behavior.I am not some kind of super Mom I just plan ahead because I know if I do not all H##l would break lose.
I have seen it happen many times.If You take your child on a trip plan before hand.This Lady just packed her kids up and figured they would be entertained on the plane.I have given away many coloring books and crayons (I started bringing extras)to kids who’s folks did not plan for their child being bored.And not taking any thing to eat? each one of my kids had juice boxes(I know I know cant do that anymore.)but you can get them at the airport stores.They would also have little snacks crackers,gummys etc. in their own back packs.for my child with OCD this was very important.If you have children with “problems” YOU the parent have to deal with it not force others to deal with it.
homemom3
Jul 8, 2008 at 5:31 am
Here’s a question for ya: Like the above commenter said if you go into a restaurant or store and aren’t wearing clothes because you are a bum do you expect to be served just because you DON’T have these items? Imagine you just reserved a table that took months to get. You are sitting down enjoying a meal and some man/woman walks in with no shirt or a shirt that stinks or has oil all over it because he came in off the streets. Do you expect the manager to sit him next to YOU? Or do you expect him to get kicked out?
How about this scenario? You are in a church or library and suddenly a large group comes in and they are loud walking up and down the aisles, knocking things off shelves. Do you shush them or go about your business and try ignoring them and listening to the priest or reading louder to your children?
Yes, I do believe we still “expect manners” because society still wants “SOME” rules.
homemom3
Jul 8, 2008 at 5:48 am
Wouldn’t you know…. airline refunds them I wonder if they told them we’ll refund you as long as you NEVER fly with us again. That’s one way to get a free trip for a family of 6. Hey Gayla do you still want to go on that cruise with me? I bet we could rank in a lot of dough. Maybe we could act up and blame it on something. Or just bring all of our children and EXPECT to get free tickets. Anyone else?
See, this is what’s going to happen. I bet by the end of the month someone else claims the airlines were mean to them and made them follow rules.
w
Jul 8, 2008 at 7:06 am
1. The giant tub of fat needs to stop eating and having kids.
2. maybe if she disaplined her spons they could have made ther next flight.
3. The airlines have every right to kick anyone off any where they please as long as those being removed are a hazored or disturbence to oters.
homemom3
Jul 8, 2008 at 7:25 am
See if JeansGenes can do this with her four children it proves it can be done and should be. No excuses. Every day families with or without disabilities board planes and get through a flight just fine. There is no excuse to disrupt it and get kicked off. If you get kicked off, lesson learned don’t try suing the airlines. I think those that sue in a situation like the ones recently are only out for the money.
Tiffany
Jul 8, 2008 at 7:52 am
Yes…if one person in this world can do it…surely everyone else should be able to do it no problem….love the logic. Cause all kids are the SAME. Sounds like someone who knows nothing of autism or sensory issues.
jeansgeans
Jul 8, 2008 at 9:53 am
Tiffany
Its not just me that does it, I have seen many family’s with more than one child with a disability
and yes some times they can get loud or repetitive But the PARENT of that child knows what calms and helps make them feel secure.
We where trapped at the LA airport for 11hrs trying to get a flight to Hawaii with another family.Just The mom and her 6 active kids trying to get back to her husband stationed there. One of her children had Cerebral Palsy was in a wheel chair and loved to hum.We knew what she was up against.We got together in a corner of the terminal Got out my husbands laptop and played movies for the kids that would sit for one.Had games and coloring books for the ones that needed the extra support.She had brought her kids favorite things for her kids and i things for mine.Except for some singing from the kids for her little girl with Cerebral Palsy no one took notice of us for 11 hours. By the time we all got on the flight,the kids were ready to be in the air and the flight was fine even with the low hum of her daughter in the air.We the PARENTS took CAREof OUR KIDS.
Tiffany
Jul 8, 2008 at 10:21 am
That’s a lovely picture…but for many not a very realistic one. You said youself that YOUR child has high functioning autism. I know several autisitic kids with sensory issues. One of them screamed bloody murder on his first plane ride because the pressure on his ears was more than he could take. NOTHING would console him. Everyone here would eject them with a hoot and a cheer and blame poor mom for it.
My father was on a plane where a down’s syndrome ADULT was causing a ruckus and the other passengers were swearing and yelling at her. A 3 hour flight and pople just had to get nasty instead of just grinning and bearing it like and adult.
This whole thread shows a total lack of empathy and a total ME attitude.
Gayla McCord
Jul 8, 2008 at 10:53 am
@ jeansgeans - I applaud you! You are one of the parents that I would likely observe from a distance and know that you planned and if your plan was failing, I would still admire you and offer my assistance - rather then growing irritated by your situation.
It’s the people who do not plan ahead - the people who expect something for nothing and who take advantage of every little knee scrap in life to support their need to be a lazy parent.
Parenting is a tough job - for some it’s a helluva lot tougher - but those who put forth the best effort and try to do their job well DO stand out in crowds.
@ Homemom - I don’t think that just because one CAN do it that ALL can do it - but I do think it’s great to know that one can be an inspiration enough to raise the bar. I would like to think that parents traveling with any child - well behaved or not would make every attempt at showing every other passenger on those flights the same consideration they hope to receive.
@ Tiffany - I agree with you - just because one can doesn’t mean all can - but it sure does make those who don’t make the effort look pretty darned bad.
Any parent who has flown knows what can happen to a persons ears in flight. I always plan ahead for my own comfort - I have suckers, gum, gummy bears and carmels - depending on the pressure - one may work better then others. If a parent plans ahead, I don’t know any kid who wouldn’t light up at their favorite chewy treat and forget about what’s happening even if for a second.
If I saw a parent trying some technique as such, I would show them compassion - however, to just let the kids up wondering about the cabin - and say “Oh well, they were excited, they were rambunctious” NO that’s not acceptable.
Manners may be expected by society - but if you plan on traveling in a means where the majority are going to be expecting those manners, you should do everything you can to conform.
If you’re going to try to change society and make them more compassionate to your needs then you have to begin by being compassionate toward theirs.
That’s all I’m saying. If I see a person making an effort, I’m compassionate - but for a person to force feed me - hold me captive and try to force my acceptance - I will resent and bitch the whole flippin way.
Like grandma used to always say - you can catch far more bees with honey.
Tiffany1377
Jul 8, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Completely different Tiffany here…
Okay, so if you own a small business and someone comes into your store and takes a big stinky crap on the floor, should everyone else shopping there leave if they don’t like it? What if I, as the store owner, would rather tell the crapper to leave as they are offending the MAJORITY of my shoppers. Maybe they have a medical excuse and have no control over their bowels. Doesn’t matter. I don’t want them crapping on my turf and disrupting my business.
I would be MORE likely to fly this airline now b/c I am more likely to have a pleasant flight.
jeansgeans
Jul 8, 2008 at 4:02 pm
There is a big difference between a child’s screaming because of Autism and unruly kids.The Mother that was kicked off was not kicked off because of her child was screaming, but because all her children including the “healthy ones” were unruly and she chose not to do anything about it. Any one with any empathy would not blame a mother who’s child is in stress.This Mothers children were not in stress they were in (Mom does not mind lets run around mode).
homemom3
Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 pm
I agree with you JeansGeans, there comes a time you can tell when a child KNOWS he or she can get away with whatever because mom simply won’t do anything about it and those that have a real problem. I sympathize with the mothers that have a child with any disorders, in fact I’m normally one to ask if they need help but only if I see they are struggling. For instance the mom trying to collect all her belongings but no one helping her or letting her go through. You better bet everyone is going to wait just a second for her to get through. But this mother wasn’t that, at least not by what she said or by the video. She admits to her kids being unruly. She doesn’t state, it was ONLY the two with disabilities and the others were well behaved. Why? Because when one starts they all do, it sounds like she gave up and figured nothing would happen.
Jeans- thank you for being the mom we can all smile at and not count down the minutes until the plane stops.
Gayla- I agree, not because one did it we all can. But because every day flights go off without a hitch and they have all types of people on them. We just need to figure out our children and prepare for all types of things, including worse case scenario. If you know your kid is going ot get upset, don’t you normally have their lovies, or whatever?
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